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May. 13th, 2011

10:59 pm - Progressive, eh?

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I was sent a link to this upcoming anthology by steepholm, who hadn't really looked at it but thought Becca might be interested. The title, "Fat Girl in a Strange Land" struck me as pretty dubious, but when I looked at it, the whole thing struck me as highly dubious. Especially this: "Fat can’t just be a passing detail of the main character’s physical description." Now, they may think they get points for going on to explain that "Fat shouldn't be the only thing the main character has going on", which, admittedly is highly enlightened of them. /sarcasm But y'know - the idea that being fat MIGHT just merit only a 'passing detail' in describing a character is clearly so far beyond progressive as to pass into the realm of --. What? The truly inconceivable?

News flash for the eds: your 'progressive' sounds pretty damned unprogressive to anyone with the slightest awareness of fat acceptance. Or, I'd have thought, anyone who had more than a bit of cop on. A fabulous anthology is a possibility, but if it happened, it would be despite, rather than because of, the conception as it's worded here.

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From:desayunoencama
Date:May 13th, 2011 10:31 pm (UTC)
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Oy vey!
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From:lady_schrapnell
Date:May 14th, 2011 08:01 am (UTC)
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Yup! That's what Becca said, except in her own vernacular. :P She won't be submitting, anyway!
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From:sartorias
Date:May 13th, 2011 11:00 pm (UTC)
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I thought I was the only one bothered by this.
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From:lady_schrapnell
Date:May 14th, 2011 08:03 am (UTC)
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Steepholm said there were lots of people saying it was so great, so maybe those who are bothered by it are in a minority, but you're definitely not alone!
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From:diceytillerman
Date:May 13th, 2011 11:06 pm (UTC)
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Ow.

your 'progressive' sounds pretty damned unprogressive to anyone with the slightest awareness of fat acceptance. Or, I'd have thought, anyone who had more than a bit of cop on. A fabulous anthology is a possibility, but if it happened, it would be despite, rather than because of, the conception as it's worded here.

You are so right.

Also: "fat remains a relatively unexplored frontier" -- really? I think it's explored tons, just most often in oppressive ways.
From:ex_gnomicut
Date:May 14th, 2011 05:04 am (UTC)
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I think it's explored tons, just most often in oppressive ways.

Excellent point.
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From:lady_schrapnell
Date:May 14th, 2011 08:11 am (UTC)
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Also: "fat remains a relatively unexplored frontier" -- really? I think it's explored tons, just most often in oppressive ways.

Exactly! Also, besides the smug tone, the inaccuracy of the wording gets my cranky self. Unless they want stories about planets of olive oil or something.
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From:owlfish
Date:May 14th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
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I want to read a story about planets of olive oil.
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From:lady_schrapnell
Date:May 14th, 2011 04:33 pm (UTC)
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:) Do you want to write one? You know where to submit, if so!
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From:diceytillerman
Date:May 14th, 2011 05:08 pm (UTC)
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They need to expand their nouns. I tend to use "fatness" a lot.

And while I won't argue that a character's fatness should always be "a passing detail," we do quite deperately need it to be non-symbolic. I'd personally love it to be a passing detail sometimes; and I fear that their wording is begging for symbolic fatness, rather than encouraging the construction of characters whose fatness is more than a passing detail due to oppression or actual, material, non-oppressive meaning.
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From:breathingbooks
Date:May 14th, 2011 05:37 pm (UTC)
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Fat can’t just be a passing detail of the main character’s physical description

Seriously?
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From:lady_schrapnell
Date:May 14th, 2011 06:26 pm (UTC)
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Perfect icon!

And quite about the submission guidelines.
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From:generalblossom
Date:May 14th, 2011 07:39 pm (UTC)
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oh dear.